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Jul 5, 2018 at 8:33 comment added doppelgreener @MartinJames No-effort requirement/homework dumps aren't a CoC violation. This advice is appearing on the CoC document, and directs people what to do about CoC breakages, like harassment, bullying, sexism, and so on. Inside the scope of that kind of action, I'd rather people seek me or another moderator out via flags on the site I moderate. If someone's uncomfortable about an edit or a homework dump that's something else outside the scope of actions the advice is about, and I don't imagine the CoC is trying to speak about that stuff (nor am I).
Jul 5, 2018 at 7:32 comment added Martin James 'seek us out via a flag whenever something's making them uncomfortable and they don't know how to deal with it' well, I won't be doing that. No-effort requirement/homework dumps make me uncomfortable, but I don't want to run out of flags every day - the mods would soon get annoyed.
Jul 4, 2018 at 8:51 comment added terdon @doppelgreener (and HDE) also as a mod, I feel the exact opposite. I think that ideally, the first step should be "Hey, that's making me uncomfortable, please stop". Of course, that assumes the user feels comfortable doing so and many don't. That's absolutely fine! If you don't feel OK addressing it yourself, then by all means, flag! But if you do, I think it's always best to try to point out that a certain behavior is unpleasant for you first and only escalate to mods either if you don't want to do that (fair enough) or it doesn't work. So I'd put the "Address it directly" part first.
Jul 3, 2018 at 22:58 comment added HDE 226868 @doppelgreener I'm also rather wary of that one, also as a mod; in theory, resolving small-scale stuff quietly is nicer than having to bring in the big guns. But 1) it almost never works like that, 2) not flagging leaves no traces for mods to see (and on SO and the larger sites, they'll never see it), 3) there's so much potential for things to go wrong, and 4) I think that option almost implies that one shouldn't ask for mod help if needed. In other words . . . yes, I agree. I suppose you could probably make a solid argument for removing that one entirely.
Jul 3, 2018 at 22:52 comment added doppelgreener As a moderator I'd prefer someone to seek us out via a flag whenever something's making them uncomfortable and they don't know how to deal with it. For many users, my preference would be they never have to use the "address it directly" option. I would especially not want them to feel they must try that before flagging.
Jul 3, 2018 at 21:17 comment added thesecretmaster It may be useful to put this in steps. For example, you should first alert moderators (or CMs if the problem requires CM attention), then try and address it yourself (if you're comfortable doing that), and then if it hasn't been handled to your satisfaction, use the Contact Us form. Either steps like that, or examples of when to use "Contact Us" vs flags.
Jul 3, 2018 at 17:20 comment added Catija @TomLimoncelli the down side with numbering is that it implies progression... but in reality, there's no progression here. Someone can either flag something or address it directly depending on personal preference. For example, if there's inappropriate (unnecessary) language in a post, it can be edited and flagging could wait until a time that person rolls back the edit to contain the content.
Jul 3, 2018 at 17:09 comment added Tom Limoncelli StaffMod Numbering (instead of bullets) might be a subtle way to imply escalation.
Jul 3, 2018 at 15:52 comment added Donna StaffMod Great feedback. I think adding some detail about which options to use when makes sense. Thanks for pointing this out.
Jul 3, 2018 at 15:30 history answered HDE 226868 CC BY-SA 4.0